From: RoyalLemonpie (Original Message) Sent: 06/07/2008 22:58
I wonder if there are many members on this site who sometimes think of something thay would like to post but have no particular thread to post it on, perhaps an observation or somthing seen or an event which is worthy of comment but is not in itself meant to be a thread.
I would like to tell you about my visit earlier this year to the National Memorial Arboretum although by its very nature it will never be finished it is a truly humbling and spiritual experience and to see the wonderful care and attention the volunteers give to the many veterans who visit restored my faith in humanity.
There are more than 178 memorials all different. Having no one in my family to remember except a dead uncle I never knew. I placed my small cross in theNational Service Memorial garden. For a small donation power or ordinary chair may be hired for the length of stay.and a road train also goes round the area. On line National Memorial Arboretum
Joy
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From: Swallow Sent: 25/07/2008 23:37
I like this thread. Reminds me of my fridge door. All sorts of disconnected info that is absolutely vital for my survival, but very rarely read. Like how to hot up frozen Yorkshire pudding, or how to poach eggs in the micro wave. But tonight, knowing how we have oodles of historians on the books, plus an inordinately large contingent of Wessexians, I wanted to share something with the rest of us. On this day in 1554 Queen Mary 1 of England married Philip 11 of Spain at Winchester. That's all.
Be happy Allan
P.S. It was in the "South Wales Argus" - don't know why.
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From: Keith_Williams Sent: 26/07/2008 10:09
True, and you can see the chair she sat on in the Triforium Gallery at the Cathedral, the hooks in the pillars where the decorations were hung, and bits of the sideboards used to hold the grub in the ensuing banquet at Wolvesey Palace next door. The reason Winchester was chosen was its proximity to Southampton. Philip was in the country for just a few days, just long enough to do the business (to no avail) and depart. These were not auspicious times for a Spanish prince to be knocking around in these northern climes.
Of course, it was all done to cock a snoot at the old enemy France - an alliance of Spain, England and the Netherlands (which Spain owned) had the French surrounded and outnumbered. Pity it didn't last. Mary died four years later and it all came to nought!
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From: Keith_Williams Sent: 27/07/2008 11:59
Sitting here, pondering the vicissitudes of life, as yer do, it suddenly occured to me that we'd been blessed (or not, according to yer p.o.v?) with a previous Philip, Prince Consort to our beloved Queen, before the present one. A little Google research put me straight. The first Phil's dad just looked around for a spare Spanish Kingdom and, just in time, made him King of Naples, so that he could be seen as Mary's equal in the European royal heirarchy. Useful to have a dad like that!
So it seems we had a King Philip, consort to Bloody Queen Mary. Never seems to get a mention as such in the history text books.
The records also show that Mary failed to put in an appearance at breakfast the day after the nuptials, or indeed for the rest of that day. But nothing came of it, otherwise we might all be saying our Hail Mary's to this day. But it must have been quite a night. As far as I can tell Phil never set foot in these blessed islands again.
Which reminds me - has anyone read Ian McEwan's "On Chesil Beach" - a novelette that can disposed of in a day, but beautifully constructed and the best example of good use of modern English that I have encountered in recent years. As a psychological study I rank it way above his "Atonement".
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From: Shir1020 Sent: 28/07/2008 12:27
I googled 'Bulith'. It's derived from the Welsh words 'bu' and 'alt' and translates as 'the wild ox of the wooded slope'.
I once read out the name 'BULIT ISIS' etched on an old stone wall and declared it must be Latin but my husband said no
it's old eroded English 'BUILT 1818.
Shirl.
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From: SKELLY Sent: 28/07/2008 18:11
I read the book On Chesil Beach flying back to the USA from England.It was very good indeed and very thought provoking. I have enjoyed and read most of his books and I would put this one towards the top. Has summer been cancelled in England this year as 30 mile per hour winds and rain were not what I expected when I visited at the end of June. On second thoughts I prefer that to the 95 degree heat and 95% humidity I have to suffer through in the 'Atlanta summer".
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From: Swallow Sent: 28/07/2008 20:10
Hi Shirl - my reference for Builth, comes up as Cow Pasture. Not a lot of difference but yrs has more romance then mine.
And Keith - Ta for those revelations abt Queen Mary. I had no idea I would get such a wonderful insight into the doings of Royalty. Hardly bears comparison with the Windsors. No way could I imagine Camilla, Lady Di, Princess Margaret et alia needing a day in bed after a night of passion. Margaret would be down there like a good un, weeding the cabbages with Roddy.
Be happy Allan
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From: Swallow Sent: 28/07/2008 20:24
And another completely unrelated item. Dave Gretton has been telling me of a holiday he and Jean are just abt to start. Wowee. Fly from Houston to L.A. for a short break. Then to Hong Kong for a short break. Now his wife has been doing voluntary work down the Zoo since she retired and got a thing going with the monkeys. Last year they went to Rwanda to meet up with the Gorillas. The political climate was dodgy but they did contact some gorillas. This year they meet up with friends and then move on into Borneo to talk with the Orang - Utangs. Toddle back with breaks in Perth (Oz) and Brissy. Sounds really exciting. Plus, and this I find annoying, they have hurricanes going on in The Gulf of Mexico. Hurricane Doris is the one to watch. I am sorry but I just cannot find anything scary in anyone or anything called Doris. On balance, pleased I have missed it.
Be Happy Allan
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From: RoyalLemonpie Sent: 28/08/2008 21:20
I have returned from a very wet and windy North Wales but still very enjoyable, good companions books and fine alcohol made each day a pleasure.. The Snowdonia range was as unatainable as ever shrouded in mist and secrecy as I looked up from the little train that runs along the valley.
Returning home I found an E mail from the Scarlet Pimpernel who assures me he is communicating within the next few days with Adin, Mike Gallagher and Adrian Kirkham mmmm we shall see.
Great to have you back Anne and good luck with the move.
Be rich and healthy Joy R.L.P.
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From: Swallow Sent: 30/08/2008 22:55
I've written this once and it just scooted off never to be seen again. But I so generous, so here we go again for seconds.
Hello Keith - you filled us in quite nicely abt Bloody Mary and her doings in Winchester, but never got round to mentioning the juicy bits abt her intrigue, blood letting, deaths and poetry. Apparently she was known to the boys as The Farmers Wife - as my source tells me - but I don't know why. Then she had a thing going agst Cranmer and a couple of his religious buddies. They were hounded down, tied up and tortured, which included being blinded. Then all 3 burnt at the stake.
Somebody recorded this by composing:-
Three Blind Mice, Three Blind Mice,
etc, etc.
Be Happy Allan
P.S. Bet Ron didn't know this - He, he.
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From: James-Lawson Sent: 31/08/2008 16:25
Alan - Your recent contribution to this thread reminded me of a lecture I attended long after I had retired The speaker revealed the the hidden meaning of the the rhymes we chirrupped when young.They were penned in an age when overt criticism of the high and mighty would have invoked condign punishment . Of course although they appeared to be harmless little jingles the targets those of their circle knew who was being lampooned, but the target could do nothing about it.
Take for instance
Little Jack Horner
Sat in a corner
Eating his Christmas pie.
He put in his thumb
And pulled out a plum etc
Well, he was a favourite at the court of Henry V111 who secured a large monastic estate at a very reasonable cost.
Then there was high ranking cleric who, allegedly, supplemented his income by investing in a group of brothels. I have forgotten how it begins but it cotinues
Upstairs and downstairs
And in my lady's chamber.
There he found an old man
Who would not pay his fare
So he took him by the left leg
And threw him down the stairs.
I learnt of all this too late to enliven my lessons.
J.A.L.
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From: Eileen_Gerrard Sent: 31/08/2008 17:12
You might both be interested in this link then.
http://www.rhymes.org.uk/
Eileen
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From: yorkie Sent: 31/08/2008 22:23
Sorry for this late response to your comment about Hurricane Doris. I just had to respond and say that if you had known my mother (sadly no longer with us) you might have been able to understand the wrath of a hurricane called Doris. A lovely woman unless you crossed her then...............watch out!
yorkie aka Ann Rhodes
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From: Swallow Sent: 01/09/2008 23:42
Ta Eileen and Jim for your help. Wonderful link is that. I'm going to spend hours swotting it up. Already the Jack and Jill one is really educating me. I just thought that executioners were probably rather odd people to know. And when they had done a particularly good job of removing a head, were just indulging in a bit of showboating by picking it up by the hair and swinging it around a bit. But no. This is where you get educated into the etiquette of head removal. The head stays alive for 8 seconds so they say, so you get a last look (and first, come to that) of your own headless body.
Be Happy Allan
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From: Eileen_Gerrard Sent: 10/09/2008 13:02
I forgot to say it was from Twelfth Night, which I studied over sixty years ago.
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From: Ronthorne35 Sent: 10/09/2008 14:08
Quite right Eileen, I really ought to check my quotations instead of tossing them off the top of my head. And you deserve Allan's gold star,I don't, because I only got a small part of the way to solving theproblem. But Allan is very generous, and I also think he is scared of me.After all, whenI was ten, not yet sleek-headed and such as sleep o'nights, but lean,hungry and dangerous, he was only three so it's natural that he should try to humour me or keep out of my way.
Ron
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From: Swallow Sent: 10/09/2008 22:44
Oh my God. I put my head above the parapet and get shot down from all sides. So right - I subtract half a gold star from Eileen. Her clue was comparing "eyes" spelt t'other way, so was not a clue. And as for Ron. Playing the age card now. All I can say in defence is I was the result of my conception, not the planner. But he did get his quotation wrong (AGAIN). So he goes down to zero, and Eileen gets her half back for jumping in and correcting. I didn't know it in any case!! And to tell the truth I am scared to death of both of you.
I haven't got a proper puzzle but will give you some silly ones:-
1. If the cops arrest a mime artist, do they tell him he has the right to remain silent?
2. Why do people pay to go to the top of tall buildings and then put money in binoculars to look at things on the ground?
3. If quizzes are quizzical, what are tests?
4. Why do they call it a one night stand when you're horizontal most of the time?
5. Why is there only one Monopolies Commission?
I could go on but I am scared of retribution, so you will just have to wait a bit. Why not try Suduko? That's quite a challenge. And the in way now, for us leisured classes to keep our marbles all shiny, are the complicated bits of mental arithmetric. Some newspapers carry them, or you can get a P.C. program where they give you three daily ones and it goes on for yonks.
Like today. No calculators, paper etc. Purely mental. With only 30 secs allowed. Start with 64. Times 4. Minus 165. Divide by 3. Add 127. Divide by 2. Take away 57. Times 7. Add 41. 5/6ths of this.
Post it, and then get out the calculator. Dare you.
Be happy Allan
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From: Ronthorne35 Sent: 11/09/2008 18:15
Maybe I got that bit about Life/Youth wrong because in my mid-eighties I can't really claim to be a youth any more, but still have a bit of life in me. Geriatric slip.
In my defence I would say that one is entitled to do a bit of misquoting from time to time. After all Shakespeare himself got most of his history and geography wrong, he would never have passed School Certifcate at TGS. Knowing scores of snatches sof the old poets by heart I'll never get them exactly right, but remember La culture est ce qui reste quand on a oublié tout ce ce qu'on a appris.
Wouldn't you agree, mes chers codgers, that that bit about the Ages of Man, ending "sans teeth, sans eyes, sans nez,sans everything" ought to be amended by the following:
if thou art out of luck
but in our case, hopefully,
avec this and that and the other and in fact
with everything intact
Ron (not trying to improve on Shakespeare,just personalising a bit)
Ron, (not trying to improve Shakespeare,which migjht be considered a trifle arrogant, just personalising a bit)
avec everything intact.
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From: Swallow Sent: 11/09/2008 22:51
Come on all you multi lingualists. Have a go at some sums. Maths. Where there are no back and white and grey areas like in poetry. You are either right or wrong. Full stop. Mais peut etre ( just showing off now), si d'abord vous ne reuissez pas, essayer essayer encore. Gotcha now Ron. Do you want me to translate? He, he.
Be happy Allan
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From: Ronthorne35 Sent: 12/09/2008 01:48
No,when it comes to figures, I'm what you call a mardy b-----r. I'm not playin.
You win before we start.
Your French is not bad at all, never more than one mistake every two words, so it's quite understandable. Unlike my maths which was always execrable.
Ron
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From: Eileen_Gerrard Sent: 12/09/2008 08:09
I am neither a mathematician or a linguist, so I'm a non-starter where the two of you are concerned.
I just have flashes of inspiration about every ten years, and that happened the other day, so I'll leave you to it, and enjoy your scraps.
I will hang on to my gold star though. It's a long time since I had one of those!
Eileen
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From: Eileen_Gerrard Sent: 12/09/2008 09:33
Whoops, I've lost my gold star!
I have broken one of Mrs Moseley's cardinal rules; something she instilled in me in the first form. It's neither, nor, and either, or. I can hear her saying it now, and I have repeated it many times. Another senior moment...........alas!
Eileen.
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From: RoyalLemonpie Sent: 12/09/2008 15:50
Ron, Eileen, Allan, I know nothing about anything, not commas,,not puzzles, nor maths, all I know is that everytime I go away this year it rains and rains.
I looked at the tasks you set Allan and produced answers that satisfied me so thats alright then.
I was getting prepared for doomsday last Wednesday but then I was reassured by Prof.Stephen`s comments so all was well , at least for three more years according to a German spokesman.Why is there never happy news?
Regards Joy R.L.P.
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From: RoyalLemonpie Sent: 14/09/2008 16:28
I had a continental moment this Sunday morning Noel and I got the camper van out and went up the Preston New Road towards Preston and Blackpool and parked in a layby to wait fo the Tour of Britain to come through to Southport on its way to Liverpool. we were joined by a man from Kendal who was watching out for his friend`s son James First came an end to traffic passing by. then lights flashing the first of many Police motorbikes at great speed going ahead to conrol the route at least twelve bikes ( I lost count) also Tour of Britain motorbikes identified by stickers on the bikes fronts it seemed a motorbike race . Then in sight came a flashing car with two outriders, this was it getting closer, I decided to wave at everything.
Suddenly it was upon us car and motorbikes in front, three cyclists, a follow up car with cycles on.top gone in the blink of an eye. Several minutes later another flashing car the main bunch a strangled Allez allez from me a wave at the precarious cameraman on back of his motorbike ,the many back up vehicles and all was quiet a real moment in time. Regards Joy R.L.P.
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From: Swallow Sent: 14/09/2008 21:37
Now look you Royal Highness - can't have you like this. Now this is what I do to start the day right. Grab hold of the Vacuum and sing loudly, "When you left me all alone, At the record ho-o-op, Told me you were going out. For a soda po-o-op." Then grab a feather duster and go for the HATE bit. Use the duster as a rapier and attack anything in sight as you hit "Lipstick on your collar, told a tale on you oo oo." Then you are set up for the day. Look at these last 2 days of hot sun. You really must move in down here. Did you see Bryn Terfel last night in his outrageous Welsh Dragon over coat at the Proms. And the crowds in Singleton Pk, Swansea. And just for the record Bryn's surname is pronounced "Tare - vel". Which is not what that lunatic said who was reporting the event. Then Connie Fisher's live in boyfriend was also living with somebody else at the same time, so that's him chucked out. And "Strictly" judge, Craig Revel Horwood, was married to a Welsh girl who walked out on him. To get his revenge he turned gay and got a boyfriend. And it has just been revealed that Roald Dahl had a cushy job while with the military in America. He had a talent for Anglo American relations (between the sheets) and that became his day job. Apparently he got good friends with Eleanor Roosevelt, but met his match with Clare Booth Luce and begged to be taken off the assignment. They wouldn't budge, sent him back, and told to close his eyes and think of England. Surrounded by characters like that life is fun all the time. And they really do exist. Think seriously. And be Happy Allan
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From: Swallow Sent: 15/09/2008 21:07
Hey Nonny No. Charabang trip for Al. A load of Welsh old Codgers going up to Twickers tomorrow for a tour of Headquarters as the English do it. Should open their eyes a bit. I am really looking forward to it. You know, dressing rooms, offices, memorabilia and all that jazz. Watch this space tomorrow.
Just a query abt sport. If one synchronised swimmer drowns, do the rest have to drown too? And is it right in Russia, that if a male athlete loses, he becomes a female athlete? Be happy Allan
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From: TreaclyBiggeoff Sent: 16/09/2008 10:41
Hello Alan, ~~~~~ are there such creatures as male synchronised swimmers ? If not, then why not ? I think we should be told. Any one for mixed doubles? Bet you had a great day out trogging up and down the M4.
keep well -- geoff.
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From: RoyalLemonpie Sent: 28/09/2008 19:51
I am just returned from near the Lake District ( not one of my favourite places) and in amongst the group of people I met up with,. I met an amazing gentleman and his wife and as the long weekend progressed I noticed he had no fingers only a thumb on each hand and I learned he was a personal acquaintance of the Duke of Edinborough and the story I heard took me straight back to the after war years. You may have guessed that this gentleman was a member of The Guinea Pig Club and recieved terrible injuries during a bombing raid he spoke warmly of the effort and interest the Duke takes in the club of which there are fewer now than 300 members.
The amazing thing however was that he returned to his job as a toollmaker married his young sweetheart at 21 rears old and has had a very enriched life having a successful family and happy retirement. he has featured in several books and I was interested enough to go on the Guines Pig web site and sure enough there was a photo of Alan`s hands.
Sometimes we do forget today about the many who still carry the aftermath of wars both past and present
Regards Joy
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From: Swallow Sent: 28/09/2008 22:31
You might fancy being reminded of this:-
"The Battle for France is over...the Battle of Britain is about to begin. Upon this battle depends the survival of Christian civilisation. The whole fury and might of the enemy must, very soon, be turned on us. Hitler knows that he will have to break us in this island, or lose the war.
If we can stand up to him, all Europe may be free and the life of the world may move forwards into broad sunlit uplands.
But, if we fail, the whole world will sink into the abyss of a new dark age.
Let us, therefore, brace ourselves to our duty and so bear ourselves that if the British Empire lasts for a thousand years, men will still say:
THIS was their finest hour."
Be happy Allan
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From: RoyalLemonpie Sent: 05/10/2008 19:50
Allan, thanks for the reminder of that speech, things in this country have not turned out as hoped for generally speaking but still we hope.
I am back again from another wet flood threatened weekend but managed a good one with lively company and good cheer but it was cold which caused me to think about our school days once again and our home living The linoleum flooring with perhapd a rag rug at the bedside, the cold bathroom and the toilet which though in the house was entered through an outside door In Wigan it was up the yard just like Coronation Street. The Monday washday with all its upheavel and the only heating in the house from the large cooking range with its blackleaded bits and polished steel.
It all seemed natural at the time and I think will help us through this fuel price shock
because we can draw on survival instincts from our youth but how will other generations survive without heating ,car usage and other things which have become not luxuries but needs. and now have to be thought about.
I am not usually so pessimistic I think reading the paper is getting me down.
Regards Joy
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From: Swallow Sent: 06/10/2008 20:41
Come on yr Royal Highness. Things are not so bad. Look on it as a game. My daughter and me spend hours checking fuel costs. If I go over to Morrisons in Risca I save 4p/L. over Pontypool Stick in 60L and I am £2.40 better off. I've been looking at the new car market and you can screw them rotten. They have been caught with their pants down. Supply vastly exceeding demand. The pipeline blocked solid. So get out there and name yr own price and its yours. But don't drag your heels. They'll cut production - empty the pipe - balance supply and demand - and up go the prices again. We've all finished our mortgages, so no fear of repossession. We are not in work so cannot lose our jobs. God puts my pension in the bank every month. And if my investments lose money and I don't live long enough to see them recover, that is my prob for my kids. I'll be gone. So you see, you are worrying over nothing. I'll do you a deal. I've got a ticket for a Dionne Warwick concert. Come on down and I will take you. After she has sung "Walk on By", "Heartbreaker", "Anyone who had a Heart", it'll give you a new perspective. (That's pretty good timing. I didn't realise until just now, that such old fashioned music reflected todays circs.)
So you be happy Allan
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From: Swallow Sent: 07/10/2008 22:04
Well that little excursion yesterday into "The Good Old Days" got me going today. Just been thinking of you all day and what other music titles could help to lighten the load. How abt Billy Ocean and "When the Going Gets Tough". Which of course can be malapropised* (pretty good verb that. I made it up just now.) into "Go and get Stuffed". And in politics, how abt Peter and Gordon (yes, they've been here before - top of the pops in the 60's) and "A World Without Love".
Be Happy Allan
P.S. * Check out "The Rivals" by Sheridan (for those who have not met the lady before.)
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From: Swallow Sent: 09/10/2008 22:04
Well I hope I am being of some use. But just to help you along a bit here are 3 true stories. Just to prove that life is still a laugh, and without you even trying. Just hang about and the laughs come to you.
No.1 I was in the Sauna the other day all on my own. Flat on my back sizzling away and slowly melting. A young girl in her mid twenties, clad in a very skimpy bikini flew in at 200 m.p.h. Threw herself on the Bench, "Thanks heavens for that." "Anything wrong? Can I help?" "No, I am just all of a fluster, and need to calm down." "What you been up to then?" "I've come straight over here, straight from work. I work in Page's Chippie and they are filming for Dr Who in Panteg Steelworks just over the road. Then in thro the door comes John Barrowman for some Fish and Chips for lunch. I know I am married and got two kids, and I know he is gay, but I just love him so much. And I was serving him. To pile on the agony the shop manager is quite a good looking bloke, and he was flirting, trying to get off with him. I just had to get out of there."
No.2 And then on another day just recently, I was about to take a Jacuzzi. There was a very respectable lady in there on her own. A sort of Vicars wife. Good cozzie, good figure, make up, snow white hair freshly permed into corrugated iron waves. Age 62. As I have mentioned before I like to wriggle round a bit to get a jet right under each ham. To help me along a bit she moved over a few inches. I'm settling down, when I noticed some very strange behaviour. Her eyes were really big and round. Then her mouth opened big and round. Then came a long drawn out "Oooo" of delight and pleasure. "Cor" she says "You've got to be careful of where you sit in these things!!!"
No.3 Hot from the press this one. I took daughter Em out for lunch today. Just for a chat etc. We went down the Bay in Cardiff and found a really nice Mexican restaurant. Then she told me this. She works in the Heath Hospital, a few stories up. Opposite her ward is the multi storey car park. Somebody spotted a bit of a commotion. Ambulances, Fire Brigade and all that. Then they saw it. A girl, ready to do a jump. So all the nurses rushed over to get a good view. Professional pride held the doctors back (as they do). Until. Somehow the girl was nearly over but then was hanging upside down. There she was showing her pants and everything, when her boobs fell out. The nurses felt embarrassed for the poor girl and went back to work. Directly the doctors heard this latest, there was a stampede, and they were all by the window!!!
Just hang about Joy, and the laughs will come.
Be Happy Allan
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From: willbedford Sent: 10/10/2008 20:24
As an officianado of NCIS, CSI, CSI NY, CSI Miami, Law & Order, L&O SVU, and L&O Criminal Intent I can report that big brown eyes and short hair is Lauren Holly - once married to Jim Carey.
Mariska Hargitay is one of the senior detectives in Law & Order Special Victims Unit and she certainly is the daughter of Jayne Mansfield!
That does not stop her having been in NCIS as these American shows are all incestuous where actors are concerned.
I hope I have not duplicated someone else's update.
Cheers
exrugbyman
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From: RoyalLemonpie Sent: 10/10/2008 22:38
Yes nice one Allan my spirits are lifted as I observe the peculiarities of my human contacts. However I was not best pleased to see a national news paper in an article about Iceland saying they did not have surnames there, my Icelandic friends were not amused but our friendship is holding together.
I was also irritated by a reader writing in the paper asking what was the difference between a simile, a metaphor, and an analogy?
Why not just look it up or go to the library.
I must confess however I got very mixed up trying to explain the difference between an illusion and a delusion in simple terms, I think I suffer from one or the other but which?
Keep well regards Joy
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From: Keith_Williams Sent: 11/10/2008 08:15
RLP,
Interesting question. And the dictionary definitions don't seem to make much distinction. But in my usage a delusion is an illusion deliberately done to deceive. Others may differ.
K
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From: Ronthorne35 Sent: 11/10/2008 09:42
Keith,
But some merchants sof delusion would never admit to deceit.They delude themselves too.
To me, there is simply no reality in illusion,and no truth in delusion. But that takes us back to what is truth and what is reality.
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From: Swallow Sent: 12/10/2008 22:19
Surely a delusion is a medical condition where the guy is totally convinced he is seeing/living a particular set of circs, which to the rest of us just cannot be happening. Like a schizophrenic interpreting secret massages out of the newspaper, having to drape a towel over the Telly cos it is spying on him/her, or that the upper deck of a passing bus is full of aliens checking out planet earth.
Be happy Allan
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From: Swallow Sent: 12/10/2008 22:50
I seem to have got lost amongst all these illusions stuff. But, for the sake of you non believers abt the strange habits of the Welsh, I should have mentioned I took Em to the Red Dragon Centre on Thursday and then on Friday I was back in Cardiff accompanying my youngest, Pete, to the St. David's Shopping Mall. A million shops all under one roof, plus a 10' foot bronze of Gareth in action. He wanted a light sabre so we found a shop which specialises in that sort of thing. On the way back to the car we passed "Timberland", so dropped by for a browse. In case you have forgotten, they are the shop who sell posh winterwear. People like Samson, Atlas, Hercules, Brian Blessed, Oliver Reed shop there. Big men. Hairy men. You know - if you were climbing Everest in "Berghaus" you would get there. In "Timberland" you would get there, but do it in style!! An assistant was very upset. Now Pete is 6', 16 stone, bearded, and pony tailed. So looks a bit of a handfull and she wondered if we were carrying a rifle. We undid it, and she was in raptures. Her husband is a techie and she would love to get one for him. Been to "Star Wars", "Judge Dredd" etc etc. Got to have a go. So there she was in front of a full length mirror - lunge - parry - thrust. The world is going mad round me.
So keep taking the tablets Yr Highness - it could be you.
Be happy Allan
P.S. Have you heard abt the conversation between Atlas and Hercules. Hercules was lifting the earth back onto Atlas' shoulders, when Atlas requested, "No, not Switzerland first." "Why not?" "Cos the Alps are all sharp and pointy, and dig into my neck and hurt me."
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Recommend Message 62 of 65 in Discussion
From: RoyalLemonpie Sent: 13/10/2008 11:05
So, I am deluding myself that I am an illusion, very comforting, back into my shell for a makeover.
Allan whatever I am wearing I am not going to climb Everest or anything any more, I will lift mine eyes unto the hills and be thankful I can now walk the vales slowly and carefully and rejoice.
Of course aliens are about do you never have days when everyone appears so ugly that is when you should be very carefull who you bump into.
Regards Joy R.L.P.
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Recommend Message 63 of 65 in Discussion
From: Swallow Sent: 13/10/2008 22:09
Well here I go again trying to lift spirits in the midst of all this doom and gloom. I had meant to retire, but you prompted me Joy by yr last contribution. This will work for a dead cert. Tomorrow do your chores, have your lunch and settle down in a nice easy chair and have a little daydream. You have joined yr local Nudist Club. You go along on the first day and get down to the buff. Out in the sun, you stroll gently thro a grassy meadow. You enter a shady wood and feel the damp moss between yr toes. Then you come across a little stream and you lie across a rock watching the trout sunbathing. You feel you are being watched, so you slowly look up. AND FIND OUT JOHNNY DEPP IS A MEMBER TOO. WAHEY!!!
And the beauty of this kind of Therapy is you can do it every day. So give it a few days and report back. Please. Every detail.
Be Happy Allan
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Recommend Message 64 of 65 in Discussion
From: Swallow Sent: 13/10/2008 22:24
I played Rugby agst Brian Blessed donkeys years ago when he was just starting out on Telly. He played for Newton - le - Willows. He was a big rough lump on the field, but no malice. Then in the bar, after a couple of pints, he was just as manic as in any of his recent TV appearances. One of those nights when you feel privileged to have been there. In the company of a complete nutter. Completely and utterly larger than life. But loads of fun.
That's the beauty of old age. If you cannot do it, or even think abt doing it - you've got memories
Be happy Allan
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Recommend Message 65 of 65 in Discussion
From: RoyalLemonpie Sent: 03/12/2008 22:26
I would like very much to wish all my friends who contribute to this site a very Merry Christms and a Happy 2009 and may you have good health and happiness
I am home for a while but have decided not to send Christmas cards this year except to family, I do not know why perhaps I am getting scroogelike or maybe
I am saddened by all the rotten news that seems to be around us.
Regards Joy R.L.P.
What a surprise to see this thread moved over I am finding my way around and looking foreward to catching uo with everyone, i managed to clean my white keyboard by the application of a slightly damp cloth and gentle pressure but am not sure how to keep my screen clean.
ReplyDeleteRegards R.L.P. keep well
Joy,
ReplyDeleteSorry not to have picked up your question about cleaning keyboards earlier. I use an old toothbrush, slightly damp, to get into the cracks between the keys, and a damp cloth for the rest. But you have to be careful because on some keyboards the plastic key top can detach itself from the metal moving part beneath. They clip back again easily enough, but if you succeed in detaching several at the same time, you have to remember which came from where!
I clean my screen with the soft smooth wiping cloths that come from the opticians with my spectacles (to avoid any possibility of scratches). And no one is allowed to put a finger on the screen. Any damp cloth will leave the screen "smeary", although it's OK on the frame and stand.
But shouldn't we be posting all this under "Computer Fundamentals"?
R.L.P here thanks Keith it would have been under computor fundamentals if I could have thought quickly enough. but am still grappling with this site, I see a photo has appeared not were it was intended!!!!! How do I do it?? Yesterday I was reading in the paper that a police force has issued words of advice re drinking and driving over the festive season.If you find these terms difficult to say then you are drunk Specificity Passive-aggressive disorder Transubstantiate I ask you can most of the population say them sober.
ReplyDeleteRegards to all keep we;; and happy Joy R.L.P.
Try cleaning the key board with a ( unused-of course) half inch wide paint brush. The long bristles work a treat.I keep one by the keyboard for this purpose.Brian
ReplyDeleteJust taking a look round the new premises.. .this commentary box appeared all by it's self....like..opening the fridge door and a light comes on.
ReplyDeleteWhy are the words 'audio reply & 'video reply ' above it when other boxes have 'reply'? I don't know.
I'll click 'add a comment' ...see what happens....Shirl.
* PS..wrong one.. clicked submit....
It says above..'wrote today at 8:02 AM. I wrote it 5 minutes ago at 1pm...?..
ReplyDeleteShirl,
ReplyDeleteYou need to adjust your time zone. Go to "My Account" (top right) / "My Account Info", and near the bottom of the page change the Time Zone to "Europe/London (-0:00 GMT)
Sorry Shirl, that's something I forgot to tell you yesterday.
ReplyDeleteThanks Brian I now have a sparkling keyboard.
ReplyDeleteRegards Joy R.L.P
Keith and Eileen.
ReplyDeleteIt's a joy...transubtantiating with specificity...thank you all
Shirl.
I have so few good ideas I am happy to share the odd one I have. Take care Brian
ReplyDeleteR.L.P.here, material christmas is boxed and in the attic so I took myself off to the seafront to watch the waves breaking in over the weed covered shore this coast is disappearing as the land is reclaiming itself. Figures on the pier walk Lowry like into the wind towards the futuristic cafe balanced on the end, it is a mile each way so a good safe walk have a drink and let the wind blow you back. 2008 has been a strange year and 2009 promises to be even stranger I wish everyone on this site a good and healthy one though and take care. I returned from the front because the seagulls became a nuisance as they squalked around for visitors scraps.
ReplyDeleteRegards Royal Lemon Pie Joy,
To all members:
ReplyDeleteSo you think you are a good photographer - a hot shot with all those megapixels. Well go and look at Vince Robson's site (click on mothdiver in the list of members) and eat your heart out.
To Vince,
I think it's a fabulous photo album (but I don't share your taste in music!)
K
The new site is really up and running and entertaining with lots of entries in numerous threads(blogs).I did look at the mothdiver photos and was very impressed. Thanks for the tip Keith as I would never have seen them otherwise. What other hidden goodies are in here?
ReplyDeleteMick.
Now there's a funny thing. I thought I'd answered Mick's note once, but my answer seems to have disappeared. Perhaps I failed to click on "Submit".
ReplyDeleteThe point I made is that we should not be too surprised to find that we have a selection of talented people on the site - after all, we were a very select bunch. The best way to find out what people are doing with their own "My Site" is to click on Home at the top of this page, scroll to the bottom of the page, click on "View all 94 Members" and then click on each of the Headshots, or Names if you choose the tabular view.
Some have posted music. Joy, aka RLP, Joyce Gregson and Groggy (I've just seen the connection, Joyce) has started her own personal Blog. Other obsessive posters might choose to do the same - placing their verbal treasures firmly outside any risk of interference by the TGS site police.
Hey Keith, I`m law abiding me as if I would post any contraversial topics needing the intervention of the site police. re Groggy which is a corruption of my surname, when I was asked what name I was known by at school of course it should have been my first and maiden name however in my enthusiasm I am now stuck with my first thought and as I understand it nicknames are terms of affection so I will grin and bear it.
ReplyDeleteJust a newa flash brother John is coming on a visit mid May this year.
Regards Joy R.I.P
ReplyDeletedoctorv90 wrote on Jan 1
hi all this site is cool sorry about this but i need to post someing i can not find ware to post so i will post here if you dont mind
im looking for a photo with my sister on it my sister name was diane mathieson she went to the grammar school in 1983 to 1986
i have look at the pics with this date but i can not fine my sister in the photos if anyone has got one i would be happy if it been posted if you have time
thank and sorry for posting here have a happy new year to you all
eileen31 wrote on Feb 5 at 8:47 PM, edited today at 8:48 PM
ReplyDeleteMick, my memory goes back just two years when I came to Canada. You met us for a short time, during which we discussed various teachers. I was amused when you and my son discussed the same teacher (who will be nameless,) and you both disliked him very much, and had similar tales about him which were very funny. It was all the more interesting because you left TGS twenty years before my son started there, yet you both thought the same about him, and made me laugh.
Eileen
mickhorner wrote on Feb 5 at 9:25 PM
Eileen, It's not just your son and I who shared that view. Every now and then on one thread or another someone else confirms it even though we are, generally speaking, circumspect.
I remember the miserable weather we were having when you were in Toronto and whether the tree foliage would still be colourful. Things don't change that much as today is quite challenging. Yesterday was -14 all day,dropping to -18 in the evening and -20 overnight. It was -20 at breakfast today and I waited for it to warm up a bit before taking the dog a walk. By 10 a.m. it was -18(wind chill -23) so the dog wore his coat and I wore mine plus cap and hood and gloves. I also bought some 'ice grippers' for my boots which are very reassuring walking through the park. It has been below freezing pretty much since Jan. 13th so every flake of snow that has fallen is still hanging about in the park. Road snow is ploughed and then removed quite efficiently as Ron mentioned in his email. Still, practice makes perfect.Home owners are responsible for clearing the snow from the path in front of their property within 24 hours of a storm. Most are conscientious but there are always the same few who don't bother.
The forecast for the weekend has a temperature of 5 for one day. It's going to feel like Florida. We will go from snow and ice to slush and water. Many of the street drains will be blocked so there will be lots of surface water and the possibility of a spray for pedestrians from unthinking car drivers.
Mick.
doctorv90 wrote on Jan 1
ReplyDeletehi all this site is cool sorry about this but i need to post someing i can not find ware to post so i will post here if you dont mind
im looking for a photo with my sister on it my sister name was diane mathieson she went to the grammar school in 1983 to 1986
i have look at the pics with this date but i can not fine my sister in the photos if anyone has got one i would be happy if it been posted if you have time
thank and sorry for posting here have a happy new year to you all
Mick, the weather did improve by the time we went to the Niagara Falls.....very cold, -2 but dry, apart from when we were on the Maid of the Mist, and that was a wet do. I'll never forget all the things we did, and we have over 700 photos on my computer. The colours of the leaves were still beautiful. and I have some brilliant snaps from the helicopter over the falls, and very happy memories.
ReplyDeleteRegarding the weather; we have been as low as -4, and we found that very cold, and a lot of snow, even today. It was -10 at Chesham in Bucks recently, but I can't imagine the cold you are experiencing.
I had my drive paved in April and a drain halfway along. I was always flooded, and at times have had to have help from the fire service, but not any more. I had twentytwo sand bags round my bungalow most of last year, but now the water just drains away, I hope I'm not tempting providence saying this, but at the moment it was money well spent.
We are told that the very cold weather will continue all next week.
Eileen
Anne,
ReplyDeleteI have read what you've written in your "About Me" box. I am interested to read that you make a living as a writer.
You also said in your "Who's Who" that you had some ideas for a book. Have you had a book published, and if so, what name do you write under? I'm sure that more members would be interested. I hope you don't mind me asking and if you prefer not to say, just ignore this message.
Eileen
Further to Keith's comments about Vince Robson's photo albums (Jan 28th).
ReplyDeleteThere are some lovely photos and walks on Rod Jacobsen's site. They are also worth a look.
Eileen
Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can.
ReplyDeletei cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg.
The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at
Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod
are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the
rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit
a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by
istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? Who siad slpeling was
ipmorantt!
Eleien
In Gravitas
ReplyDeleteI don't care about a few chips you are a leader this kitchen is not big enough for both of us Grant.
Will you do one small favour for me Marco?
I will do anything for you Grant.
Will you take care of Anthea for me?
I will look after her you have the word of a man I will help her I will look after her emotionally.
You have my word.
Phew! It's hell in there.
It was pathetic. They shouldn't have a married couple on in the first place. I do enjoy the programme though.
ReplyDeleteCan anyone help I am sure someone can out there . I urgently need to transalate into Latin the following " For all the people I love"
ReplyDeleteRegards Joy R.L.P
Try:
ReplyDeletePro sulum quos ego diligo
jewartst? love it.
ReplyDeleteDo we have a real ghost on this site? I put my mouse bite on jewartst and was told "jewartst does not exist".
ReplyDeleteNot only a ghost, but a Latin scholar! Thoughts may turn to certain headmasters, watching over us from.....we'd better be careful.
Dulce et decorum est...of course the resident ghost should be a Latin scholar - but do we really need one ? or should we bring in Geoff to deal with the matter? Though He is capable of what He calls "design oversight" ( engineers language I suppose for complete cockup) He must surely have powers of exorcism.
ReplyDeleteFor Joy RLP
ReplyDeletePro cunctis mihi cari
Now all we need is a few more suggestions and someone who really knows Latin to adjudicate
Things look a bit confused to me.Why this jump from May back to January.Can it be straightened out? Or is it just my computer gettin its rat up and mankin about? Sorry, this is North Riding not south Yorks talk but you know what I'm on about,and I think I need another s on cari or else qui before the mihi, above,take your choice.
ReplyDeleteRon
ReplyDeleteI think that you have clicked on one of the "Buttons" which are situated between the blue words/black background and the black words/white background areas. These are named chronological, reverse and threaded. They do as it says on the tin. I leave mine on reversed so that I see the last messages first and so do not have to page through al of the previous ones. Hope this helps!!
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ReplyDeletegroggy1 wrote on Apr 30:
Can anyone help I am sure someone can out there . I urgently need to transalate into Latin the following " For all the people I love"
Regards Joy R.L.P
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jewartst wrote on Apr 30:
Try:
Pro sulum quos ego diligo
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mickhorner wrote on May 1:
jewartst? love it.
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ronmalta wrote on May 5:
Do we have a real ghost on this site? I put my mouse bite on jewartst and was told "jewartst does not exist".
Not only a ghost, but a Latin scholar! Thoughts may turn to certain headmasters, watching over us from.....we'd better be careful.
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ronmalta wrote on May 6:
Dulce et decorum est...of course the resident ghost should be a Latin scholar - but do we really need one ? or should we bring in Geoff to deal with the matter? Though He is capable of what He calls "design oversight" ( engineers language I suppose for complete cockup) He must surely have powers of exorcism.
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ronmalta wrote on May 6:
For Joy RLP
Pro cunctis mihi cari
Now all we need is a few more suggestions and someone who really knows Latin to adjudicate
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ronmalta wrote on May 6:
Things look a bit confused to me.Why this jump from May back to January.Can it be straightened out? Or is it just my computer gettin its rat up and mankin about? Sorry, this is North Riding not south Yorks talk but you know what I'm on about,and I think I need another s on cari or else qui before the mihi, above,take your choice.
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rodjacobsen wrote today at 10:26 AM:
Ron
I think that you have clicked on one of the "Buttons" which are situated between the blue words/black background and the black words/white background areas. These are named chronological, reverse and threaded. They do as it says on the tin. I leave mine on reversed so that I see the last messages first and so do not have to page through al of the previous ones. Hope this helps!!
Thanks Rod, I am glad to know that this was just a small problem affecting me and didn't apply to the wholesite. But I don't see any such buttons between the blue on black and black on white and can't find Chronological etc. I would like to get on reversed but as it is, it doesn't take much time because I click on the right margin and select Bottom. My problems arise perhaps because I am using an ancient second hand computer with Windows 98
ReplyDelete(continued) here, and no doubt I do touch things I should'nt, that's why I 'm doing this in two bits, I suddenly couldn't continue with the first;and though I am always eager to learn,I can never remember what I've learnt.It would also be useful for me to know how to transfer stuff from my computer in Malta ( where I have Windows XP) but this would probably be too complicated for me. Anyway, thanks for takng the trouble to give me advice.
ReplyDeleteI've been looking at through some of my old photos and found something that you may well recognise Ron. It's a photo of a place described as "Dunscroft Abbey". According to documents it was not an Abbey but a Grange connected to Roche Abbey and the management of the estates around the area. It was finally demolished despite protests by local groups. The Abbey pub was built on the site in the early 1970's I have added the photo to the photos section in the directory called "Pictures of Thorne and District". have look is it the correct one?
ReplyDeleteI don't know where this thread is going, but I watched Das Boot the other night and wept.
ReplyDeleteGazing through the window this dark rainswept morning at my little apple green Ford KA I thought of the black Ford Poplar that my Dad bought in1939. In August that year it carried all six of us plus camping equipment - tent, lilos, sleeping bags, primus stove, pots and pans- for three weeks touring around Devon and Cornwall. There are photographs of my sisters and me dressed identically in Marks & Spencer navy blue shorts, navy and white striped vests.My brother bought a surf board.
We had to return home earlier than planned because war was imminent. An hour after our arrival my Dad received a telegram ordering him to report to Chatham naval base. It was all hands on deck, everyone had a job to do my proud task was to fold his sailor collar,in that special way,and put it in his kit bag.
The next day he left, setting sail for the Straits of Gibraltar. Two years later we welcomed him home. I've got his sailor collar.
RodPerhaps,Thanks for the memory - it is ideed the old house I mentioned above and now I remember that we called it Dunscroft Abbey.What a sacrilege to destroy it! I'm sure that pub will for ever be haunted.
ReplyDeletePerhaps by me,in 1939, walking down the path and trying in vain to peer through a window at the goings-on in Elizabethan times.
Rod,thanksfor the memory.The picture is indeed of what we called Dunscroft Abbey. What a sacrilege to destroy it! That pub will surely be haunted.
ReplyDeletePerhaps haunted by me,peering in vain in 1939 through a window to watch the Elizabethan goings-on
Pro Gaudio(groggy RLP) quae totos nos amat.
ReplyDeleteCome on, Anne! Homework to be corrected!
How about:
Ron B: one out of ten for effort (cunctis mihi caris):insufficient to compensate for basic ignorance,indolence, and obliviosity.
JKW - Nought! Wrong case,wrong preposition,wrong everything. Go to the bottom of the Class.
Anyone who didn't do their homework: three hours detention next Sturday morning. Vade tecum Latin for Today Part one.
Anyone overheard to say "Couldn't care less" Line up outside Headmaster/Mistress's door,praemia malestiae tuae sumpturus/sumptura.
R,
ReplyDeleteYou swot !!
K
Not a swot,just wannabe teacher's pet.
ReplyDeleteAND I didn't cheat. It were all mi own work, I didn't get it offa that crib that Billygoat Gates lent thee.
ReplyDelete'Twern't Billygoat. It wer Gilbert Google. An 'e did it in seconds. Took thee nine days!
ReplyDeleteNow then children, do you want to visit Jest??
ReplyDeleteI've only just come across this Latin thread by accident. If "for all the people I love" is in the context of, say, sending best wishes, then a simple dative would do : omnibus mihi caris. (literally "for all those dear to me").
ReplyDeleteWhat I really logged on to say was that I've just seen that Pete Davies, a contemporary at TGS of myself and Ken Atkinson, has been elected Mayor of Doncaster as an English Democrat. We Thornensians continue to do well !
What is an "English Democrat"? I hope it's not in opposition to other kinds of Democracy.A Royal Family,hereditary Head of State,unelected and still partly hereditary House of Lords,established church, titles of nobility,no proportional representation......not the greatest model for democracy, though in practice,when not too many of the MPS are on the take,or acting as poodles on a leash, it works better than many others.
ReplyDeleteAnne, did I almost get it right with my Cunctis mihi caris? Omnibus is of course the usual word for All in the Dative, but I took Cunctis from my College's motto Cuncti adsint, because I thought it more personal than Omnibus.And of course KW was way out of line with his diligo nonsense, wasn't he?
ReplyDeleteI hope he does well Anne, for our sake, but I will reserve judgement on that for the time being.......only time will tell. I'm not sure what an English Democrat stands for, even though I read his election blurb.
ReplyDeleteBut TGS has been mentioned during his election build up.
Cuncti is just as good as omnes, when meaning everyone. Pro cunctis mihi caris, though, would mean "on behalf of/for the sake of all those I love". I think groggy meant the recipients of what he had in mind, so a plain dative is right, rather than pro + the ablative.
ReplyDeleteAs for the English Democrats, they seem to want an English First Minister, Government and Parliament (much the same as Scotland does) ; withdrawal from the EU ; political correctness quangos/laws dumped in favour of common sense ; an end to mass immigration and the deportation of illegal immigrants and immigrants convicted of crime, terrorism and extremism.
I see Pete only just won, with a majority of only 354, but well done all the same. Eileen, perhaps you could keep us exiles informed of how things go under his mayoralty ? I found the report online, with Pete's pic, and the smile is still the same, even if I wouldn't have recognised the rest. People would probably say the same about me, though.
I will keep you posted, Anne. As I said, I do hope he does well for Doncaster. I didn't think the previous one did too bad, although he became very unpopular.....and resigned when all the bad publicity regarding the dreadful mistakes made regarding children dying through neglect, and the 9 & 11 years old doing dreadful things to children of the same age, and almost killing one.....when they were put into care, too much detail I can't go into now.
ReplyDeleteSorry about the very long sentence....you may take a breath or two on reading it!!
I am reminded of the song "Let's Face the Music"...............first line..................
ReplyDelete"There may be trouble ahead ..." In politics, Eileen, there always is, despite the best intentions of elected members. Harold Wilson was quite right, when he said that a week is a long time in politics. I'm sure a lot of us remember Harold McMillan's reply, when a young journalist asked him what can most easily steer a government off course : "Events, dear boy. Events". In short, politics is unpredictable. When we backtrack a few months, who would have thought that a moat and a couple of pay-to-view porn movies would have brought both major parties into such disrepute?
ReplyDeleteIt's only taken two days......but having now read his policies, I am not surprised!
ReplyDeleteThese messages have been moved from another blog. PLEASE try to post in the most appropriate blog, otherwise the blog system will become chaotic and lose its value to all of us!!
ReplyDeleteronmalta wrote on Jun 9
The scribes and vote-counters of Leeds are to be congratulated on being the first to announce a winner, for the Yorkshire-Humber Region,in the European parliamentary Elections.
At my age, I should be bald,but I'm one of those who are not.
Allan, could you get to know for us whether we will be required to line up for a skinhead haircut before being allowed to cross the frontier into the Yorkshire Reich in September?
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eileen31 wrote on Jun 9
If you knew how upset I am at that result....you wouldn't joke Ron.
There are some very stupid people in Yorks and Humberside. Sorry but Allan doesn't live here, so I will answer that......as Queen Victoria said "We are not amused"
Sorry Ron, I know you are joking, but it is awful that there is such a piece of scum representing us.
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ronmalta wrote on Jun 10
I am very happy to read your comment, Eileen. What you call my joking is just my way to try to wake people up and provoke comment, and it worked! Sometimes, laughing people off the stage is one way of getting rid of them.Also I hesitate to talk about English politics and English life in general because I don't live there.But there is a limit, and we are talking about the European scene. Let's hope that the good folks of Brussels and Strasbourg will follow the example of today's egg-throwers in London. Apathy is the enemy.
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allanswales wrote on Jun 10
Ron - you must be psychic. I already have a skin head hairdo. 4 or 5 years now. Don't even own a comb or brush. So the choice is yours.
Be happy Allan
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amartindale wrote on Jun 10
Well, I've heard democracy defined as the way people get the government they deserve ! When I look at what's happened to Britain since 1997 and read grumbles in letter columns and the like, I tend to think of this saying. But, when all's said and done, the two BNP MEPs were democratically elected. I'm as appalled as anyone else that they were, but egg-throwing and the like isn't the answer. Disrupting the public meetings of political groups you didn't approve of was a Brownshirt tactic in Nazi Germany, so it's ironic that the anti-fascists are calling the BNP Nazis on the one hand, yet are adopting Nazi tactics towards them. The only answer is to wait until European elections come round again and then vote them out ! However, there are ultra-right groups from other countries already in the European Parliament, so God alone knows what's going to happen.
Another saying that comes to mind is the ancient Chinese curse : may you live in interesting times.
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ronmalta wrote on Jun 10
I agree that throwing things is not the way, but so long as it's eggs,not grenades I can understand it.It would be even nicer to see all the others simply turning their backs when the fascists want to join them or walking out when they get up to speak.
Allan,I'm sure you are not a skinhead under the scalp or you wouldn't be organising a gathering of staid and serious old scholars of that monument to peace,harmony and respectability(???) that was our Alma Mater. I suppose you are just incapable,in your old age, of growing a proper thatch: well, to tell the truth, many of us are just growing the stuff long to hide the expanding bald patch on top, and that highbrow dome in front is just the successsor to the gorilla-low forehead we once hid our brains (if any) behind.
Allan/Ron, I am sure your mothers. always said you would come out on top.
ReplyDeleteRegards Joy R.L.P
I'd be interested to hear other people's views on *why* the BNP and English Democrats achieved success in the recent elections. I have my own thoughts on the subject, but any ideas, folks ?
ReplyDeleteThey were successful in what are usually strong Labour seats because there was a low turnout ie many labour voters didn't vote because they were so fed up with the labour govt and politicians in general. Just goes to show you should always use your vote acting on the principal "better a devil you know...." But seriously modern history shows that apathy amonst the electorate can lead to extremists gaining power with dire results and a hard struggle to get them out!
ReplyDeleteOn a lighter note and changing the subject - one of my teachers at Dunscroft Junior School said to my Mam "Your Ronald will go a long way". She was right - I came to Australia!
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When I was about ten, my mother said of me: He can do anything he sets his mind to.The trouble is, where and how do you find somethng to set your mnd to? Seventy-five years later, I'm still looking.
ReplyDeleteRon - come to the Barossa - you will find it here!
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Great idea, Ronisok,As the old song of the sea goes, I long to sail to Sydney, one day before I die, or was it Rio? Never mind. I think I'll arise and go now, and wander down to Oz, and a small cabin build there,of teak and rosewood made,
ReplyDeleteNine vineyards shall I have there, and a crocodile choir becoz
I want to hear them croaking Long live Ron Bidmade!
And I shall have a tall ship, anchored in Botany Bay,
So I can sail to China, or even Mandalay,
Living on mangoes and kiwis,drinking barossa every day,
dodging the deadly boomerangs, walzing the night away!
Except that Australia may be just one (or two or three) continents too far for me, and my wife says she's not about to change her name to Matilda.
Pete Davies seems to have had a very rocky start to his term of office as Doncaster mayor, if the Internet is to be believed. Apparently there is now a Facebook group formed to protest about his being elected and he gave a train-wreck of an interview on Radio Sheffield. Could Eileen or others still in the area maybe give the rest of us an update ? He certainly seems to have achieved fame of a sort.
ReplyDeleteI found the interview after typing Peter Davies,Doncaster Mayor.
ReplyDeleteWhy ever should a tyke from Syke want to stray to the big city and seek to be TOP DOG of Doncaster?
A rocky start, indeed. I'd say abysmal.
Am I wrong, or is Sykehouse a place you pass through without noticing, a few cottages, a barn, a distant farm with a dog barking at the ducks...an idyllic place where you can lean all day on a gate chewing a bit of straw, and if you want company stroll over and talk to the cows, or if it's raining, as it usually is, hide in your allotment shed,sweep out the earwigs and have a snooze...there are times when I wish I was there.
Was it TGS that turned his mind? Did all that Latin get to him? or are Sykehousers given to fantasy and incoherence?
There comes a time to call it a day ( like one day as Mayorof Doncaster) and wend your way back where you belong. As Goethe might have put it:
Know'st thou t he land where turnips grow?
amid the cabbage leaves the dandilions glow,
And cows and sheep will stand and stare at you:
Your Worship, this is what you have to do:
Get on your bike,
Go back to Syke!
It's time to go!
It's time to go!
Well, Ron, I rather get the impression that Pete didn't expect to get elected and so it all came as rather a shock to him. He seemed ill-prepared for that interview, when really he should have anticipated being asked about various things he had promised. Take the reduction in the numbers of councillors, for example : the Mayor doesn't have the power to do that himself. As for the "diversity" jobs, what he should have said was that he intended to go over them all with a fine tooth comb and only the essential ones would be retained. He could also have scored a political point by pointing out that many councils don't seem to realise there's a recession on : firms are laying off workers or even going out of business, but some councils are still throwing away money by creating dubious new posts in the name of diversity. (That's true actually - my personal favourite, culled from the Guardian, is "teenage pregnancy coordinator" !) I could go on more about that radio interview, but I'll just say that I hope Pete finds his feet soon.
ReplyDeleteHello everyone, have been very busy a) roaming round and b) of course catching up with brother John I believe you all gave him a pleasant evening in the club house. We have had. a wonderful time and for once all the family were together in the same country which is unusual. many thanks to all of you who made a real effort to catch up with him.
ReplyDeleteUpon my return I had a browse through the Who`s Who column and was so amazed at the number of different countries we Old Thornensians live in not to mention the British Isles and the variety of peoples experience that took them so far from home. What curious paths have we trod to arrive at our destinations.and was the journey accidental or purposeful with a goal to be reached and targets to be met or did we just drift along with the flow of life?
Hope to see you all at the reunion all being well Be rich and healthy Joy
Groggy, aka Joy, has asked me to say she's having problems getting into here. She has asked me to say she hasn't deserted Multiply. She says she is looking forward to meeting you at the reunion.
ReplyDeleteSouthport and Lytham branch reporting in. I was pegging out one day last week (do you remember pegging out) and this really loud noise got louder and louder there was a police helicopter sweeping backwards and forewords almost overhead I telephoned my son-in-law to see if he was wide awake (he was in helicopters) and asked him to identify the noise his reaction was swift he said "get indoors now and lock all doors" hearing the urgency in his voice I did so.
ReplyDeleteLater on I heard that the bank up the road had been burgled from the rear entrance ( which is under flats) they came out with money bags alarm going off mislaid their get away car, two of them bumped into each other and spillt or is it spilled their money bags then ran away into our gardens trying to hide and the heiocopter arrived to monitor the movements, they were all caught, and I was able to cotinue pegging.
However what I really wanted to ask since I always get advice of one sort or another on this site is how do you measure the height of a tree I think there are a few ways. When the sun is overhead the shadow falls across the road and up a facing wall.The tree is a weed a silver birch and has a potential height of around 80 feet but it is in sandy soil.
The geese have flown and all is quiet over the marsh very few birds around to enjoy this bright weather.
Take care everyone, Shirley keep dancing with he duster..
Be rich and healthy Joy R.I.P.
Home sweet home and dancing for Joy.
ReplyDeleteAfter two weeks of heat & thrills in Greece followed by two weeks in a warm & peaceful French village, I came home yesterday to green fields blustery winds wild russet leaves and a heavy downpour. England I love you.
Shirl.
Hello Shirl, lucky you I spent the weekend in the grounds of what used to be called a lunatis asylum now roofless much heavy rain and wind and surrounded by creatures of the night but it was fun I think???.
ReplyDeletePs. I really do need to know how to calculate the height of a tree.
Regards Joy R.L.P.
Joy,
ReplyDeleteSorry, we neglected your heart rending plea,
For a means to establish the height of a tree.
But I'm sure this infernal computing machine
Can furnish a simple mathematical routine.
Click here:
http://www.offwell.free-online.co.uk/wet_wood_survey_2001/height.htm
Know exactly what you mean Shirley. We are off to NZ for three months and I am so looking forward to seeing family, the hot springs, an extra summer, and the other bits of "furrin paarts" we will visit but I know the best of any holiday is coming home to England's green and pleasant land.
ReplyDeleteAll the signs for Autumn are finally here after our Indian summer......leaves turning,geese flying in long skeins over the garden, a nip in the air and children playing with conkers.( council workmen putting up christmas lights !!!)
What a pleasant surprise ,Keith bursting into verse !! More please.
Pat
SIMPLE MATHEMATICAL ROUTINE,you say Keith , you gotter be kidding. My maths teachers were good at sarcasm but never as cruel as that.Let s be serious.
ReplyDeleteLet me remind everybody that there is only one proper and reliable method.
Climb to the top. If you are over 80 or the tree is over 40 get somebody else to ascend, with a ball of string,scisssors and a weight, a brick or a ship s anchor will do.At the top,tie the string to the weight and you have a plum line,the method can be used for other fruit trees but keep away from the apple trees, you might yield to temptation and then be charged with Original Sin and booted out of the Garden.
The climber should also have a saw to cut off interfering branches but not all of them or he may not be able to get down and remain dumb as a plumb up there for ever and ever.
Then measure the length of the string, if you are 6ft tall hold it at your own height and multiply as required e.g. X 10 for a 60 ft tree
One of my neighbours once had his car crushed by a fallen tree so it would be a good idea to go round and measure alll your neighbours trees so you can park out of their way when they fall. If you are really good at treegonometry remember it can also be used for buildings so it would apply to roofs too,when they blow off in a storm.
This large country tree really matters to me.
ReplyDeleteThere`s no place in a street
on a pavement for feet,
for a tall rural tree in the ground,
in an urban surround.
Thank you Keith and Ron for your advice and I will consider the options, I cannot bring myself to consider poison or a saw but who knows, is it an offence to kill a tree?
I believe the silver birch is actually a weed in the tree world.
regards Joy R.L.P.
As algorithms go, the estimated height of a standing tree undervalues its fallen length.
ReplyDeleteThere is of course another method,using hippotenusal pythagraphy,not to be confused with hyperpornography.
ReplyDeleteTake the length of the ladder used by the fire brigade to get your friend down from the top of the tree.The fireman should know this,he wouldnt want to climb off the top into outer space.
This length,since the ladder is at a right good angle from the ground,is the hypotenuse and as you know from 4th form maths,it s cinch to then work out the othe sides, just get it all squared up and squarerooted down again.
But watch out for the hippo,the one with a spike on his snout, I wouldnt want him in my garden anyway,and also for the pythag who comes slithering up talking about apple pie order,if you listen to him, well, I ve told you what you re gonna get.
Ron,School Cert maths (failed)1939,(ATC maths(failed)1941 and 1942)
This England. From Hell Hull and Halifax, good Lord deliver us.
ReplyDeleteThere's something dark and edgy about Halifax, home of the gibbet and industrial revolution. It's awesome, I am drawn to it. Fascinating with blackened stone buildings wild featureless moors and wuthering heights. Washed by the rivers and blest by the suns of home and fortunately my son and daughter in law live there. I was there last weekend. In sun rain and rainbow the Divine countenance shines forth upon our clouded hills.
....and from a reader's letter in The Daily Mail today......THIS ENGLAND
ReplyDeleteNot such a bargain! Seen in the
Westmorland Gazette: 'A two- night
break to enjoy the Lake
District in its autumn glory isn't
long enough so the Linthwaite
House Hotel is offering two nights
for the price of three.'
I would like to wish all on this site a very Happy Christmas and an improved New Year on 2009.
ReplyDeleteI had written a piece about the problems we have had here in the U.K. this past year but with my usual efficiency I decided to spell check and managed to wipe it all away,
Best wishes, Be happy, healthy and wise, Regards Joy R.L.P
Groggy,
ReplyDeleteWishing everybody the same, except perhaps wisdom because so many of us gave up on achieving that long ago and hoping you will give us your piece on the UK in the past year which would be interesting for those of us who are far away and have little contact but still have not lost interest. I have noted some good news from England...a popular music programme at which a real singer was discovered...the appointment of a real iconoclastic poet as Poet Laureate....a highly successful Summit at Thorne in September...anything else?
(re Keiths recent provocative thought on the Windows 7 thread)
ReplyDeleteNot only mentioned my name,but in close conjunction with JEST. I read it late at night and went to bed fearing nightmares. I would be looking in a mirror and staring back at me would be a portly,irascible figure in black robe and mortar board.But I slept well,just reflecting for a moment that we are perhaps not only what we appear to be (and of course,not what we think we are)but also perhaps what we might have been.Walking shadows and poor players.
If only I d been a bit more docile and traditional....as Villon said hundreds of years ago
Mais quoi,,je fuyais l escole.
comme faict le mauvais enfant,
en escripvant ceste parole
a peu que le cuer ne me fent..
but I really dont do docile and traditional.
I do have nightmares occasionally,not frightening ones but perpexing.I am always lost, in a city or a large building...so maybe thats why I m not a JEST, he spent his career in no more than 2 or 3 places and buildings, I got lost in dozens if not hundreds...
Ron, that's very strange - when I have nightmares, they're very similar to yours. I haven't been a supply teacher for some years now, but often in my dreams I find myself in an absolutely enormous (and unknown) school. Nobody has given me a timetable or a plan of the school and I spend half the night wandering around, trying to find out where I'm supposed to be. When I was younger, it was often a cruise ship I was lost in (I used to go on a cruise every summer). Any amateur psychologist among us who knows what all this means ?
ReplyDeleteWhat have we done, Anne ? It used to be called Pandoras box but now folks call it a can of worms. Will this site now be deluged with dreams and dominated by amateur psychologists?
ReplyDeleteSome of us may not want to lose our delusions,feeling most at home when we dont know where we are, and preferring a never ending cruise to the jolt of landing on terra firma.
Hm, some anxieties here. I frequently think I am packing my bag but the trsin,plane ,bus,boat or other transport is already preparing to leave.
ReplyDeleteDreams are good what adventures one can have.
Well, some dreams are just symbolic. My grandmother more or less brought me up and I lived at her house - 2 Church Balk, next door to the shop on the corner of Tennyson Avenue - both when I was at TGS, uni and afterwards. I thought of it as home and when she died in 1975, that more or less ended all contact with Thorne. For some years I dreamed of trying to get back to the house, but usually the road was being dug up or trees had fallen across it and I could never get there. That, of course, was my subconscious telling me that "home" just didn't exist any more. However, about three years ago I had a dream so vivid I can still remember the details. I was in the house on a sunny day and it was obviously break or lunch time at TGS, for I could hear the noise of the pupils talking and shouting. The room was exactly as it had been in my grandma's day, but sitting in my grandad's old chair was my mother (also no longer with us for some years). She just grinned at me. Then there was the noise of the bell that always signalled the end of breaks and lunch time. My mother said "Time to go now, Anne. Give X my regards at the funeral and say it's all right here". I woke up then. Well, X was an elderly relative by marriage whom my mother had always detested and she passed on about two weeks later. Was the dream prophetic or something else ? Quite frankly, the whole thing was very weird.
ReplyDeleteCallng all old"Kirkies". I have posted a few photos on my site " http://www.rodjacobsen.multipy.com of the old Kirk Sandall village. One of my most pleasant pastimes is collecting "historic" photos of places and visiting and identifying what is still there or not. There are plans for the development of the old village, I'm unsure whether there is the finance or a confident developer at the moment to move the development forward. The ideas for the development can be found at http://www.selfarchitects.co.uk/projects_residential_GroveRoad.htm
ReplyDeleteI'm interested in any comments or local stories, there is talk of the "egg" woman.
If You are interested in photos of the new village just after construction, including the huts, Let me know.
Don't know where this belongs, so it's ending up here. I just fell asleep on the keyboard in front of my P.C., and by some random freak it had got itself on to www.telegraph.co.uk/culture. Well you all know me and that would not be one of my free choices. And what was on there/in there but news and a vid of overnight sensation Susan Boyle doing the rounds of agents 10 yrs ago, doing standards like "Cry me a river". And there's another Old Codger popped up on American Idol with his own song "Pants on the Ground", which looks poised to go along the same sort of route to fame. Does Simon Cowell have shares in "Youtube"? In my days it was N.M.E. which made you or broke you, but time moves on.................Allan
ReplyDeleteI have no idea how many people this might interest. I can think of Eileen who I know looks after her garden birds. But yesterday I went to a talk by BTO (British Trust for Ornithology) and found it very interesting. I imagine they overlap with RSPB, but even so they are heavily into feeding, stats being collected abt where when how. Or you can just belong to "Garden Birdwatch." Feeding hints and tips thro to once again collecting stats abt yr visitors. How to euthanase poorly ones etc etc. Do as much or as little as you like. Under achieve. Over achieve. And if like me you only ever see a Blackbird, even that is exciting. Apparently our Summer Blackies buzz off to S. Africa for the Winter, allowing Blackies from Russia to nip over for a bit of Hovis and the like. But they all look the same.
ReplyDeleteMembership is only £15.00 p. a. and for this you receive a quarterly mag, plus access to numerous freebies on bird welfare. If you want more go to www.bto.org/gbw. Or contact GBW, FREEPOST IH2784, THETFORD. IP24 2BR
Be happy Allan
Can some one suggest how this is done. Please keep watching to the end of this clip:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=hwVy_2eOfsE#t=78
K
That's easy, it's magic and he is a magician.
ReplyDeleteCan anyone tell me if there is a charity which can financially help a gifted female student at University who has shall I say quite an impoverished background
ReplyDeleteI am just back on here after a few comput problems which I hope are now solved.
May I wish all Old Thornensians where ever they may be a Happy Christmas and a Prosperous New Year
Joy from a chilly windscaped Southport
Ron (Malta) & Allan
ReplyDeleteApologies for this delayed response to your messages of 25 November 2010. Entirely attributable to a lethal combination of apathy and lethargy on my part.
Allan's definition of "fettle", particularly the reference to "knocking of rough edges", fully describes the damage I was supposed to expect when Johnny May issued his threat and offered his clenched fist in Freddie Holmes's establishment for wayward children all those years ago.
But the reference to french language connections with South Yorkshire slang reminded me of two other examples that puzzled me when I was fighting for my very existence existence on Broadway all those years ago. We used to talk about "the pavy" (c.f fr "pavé") when referring to the hard surface footpath that bordered the carriageway. We also used to refer to being "out in't fresh air" (c.f. fr "fraicheur"). I often wondered whether these were coincidences, or a term brought back by first world war (or earlier) soldiers, adapted for popular use.
You probably have other better examples.
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Ron (Malta) & Allan
ReplyDeleteApologies for this delayed response to your messages of 25 November 2010. Entirely attributable to a lethal combination of apathy and lethargy.
Allan's definition of "fettle", particularly the reference to "knocking off rough edges", fully describes the damage I was supposed to expect when Johnny May issued his threat and offered his clenched fist in Freddie Holmes's establishment for wayward children all those years ago.
But the reference to french language connections with South Yorkshire slang reminded me of two other examples that puzzled me when I was fighting for my very existence existence on Broadway all those years ago. We used to talk about "the pavy" (c.f fr "pavé") when referring to the hard surface footpath that bordered the carriageway. We also used to refer to being "out in't fresh air" (c.f. fr "fraicheur"). I often wondered whether these were coincidences, or a term brought back by first world war (or earlier) soldiers, adapted for popular use.
You probably have other better examples.
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We called it the bog but a bit more upscale was loo which had a definite French origin. "Gardez l'eau" was supposedly the warning when chamberpots were being emptied into the streets from upper windows in the narrow streets of Paris prior to the installation of plumbing. It doesn't take much imagination to see the links.
ReplyDeleteJust today found this thread site again (where can it have been) and I want to ask about something which either I never knew or have lomg since forgoten.
ReplyDeleteHendiadys?
Rhetirical device by which two nouns joined by a conjunction are used instead of a noun and modifier. What is it saying?
I am still travelling around and also getting ready for John Gregson`s visit this coming May /June when he is hoping to visit the Club House once again.
What fantastical subjects we used to cover and how informative and whimsical.Are you all still out there?
Royal Lemon Pie
Mick,
ReplyDeleteNice example, and very credible. I had always assumed that "Loo" was a shortening of Waterloo - i.e. a reference to the WC. But I prefer your explanation.
Joy (RLP)
Good to hear from you again. We have been here all the time, but getting older and more lethargic. You have obviously been circulating in other, more exalted circles, where they use terms like "hendiadys". I'm afraid that is way beyond my competence and I defer to the views of Ron (Malta) and Eric Stables on such matters.
Anyway, welcome back, and have you any tips for my granddaughter who is about to visit Iceland?
Keith
Hello Joy and Mick and Keith..
ReplyDeleteMy only contribution to your definitions is very commonplace......we used to call the footpath the corsie or causie, which I take to be from the causeway.....but we used to play on t'corsie in the olden days.
I hope you saw my email to you Joy.
Hello Keith, not sure what sort of visit your granddaughter is going on but in general the weather should be getting a spring like feel, so lightweight clothing whch can be layered rather than thick heavy woollies.
ReplyDeleteStrong footwear for walking up/around volcanic rock, swimming gear for Blue Lagoon and other swimming pools and hotpots. and light ballet type shoes for indoor use, head protection if they go to the big lake,plenty of flies there though guide books tell you there are none in Iceland. Reykavik. were most people is like most cities with very fast moving traffic.Aland of ice and fire rain is heavy when it comes and plenty of reading as not much to do outside of city. go onto Ask Jeeves re Iceland the country and it will answer most questions.
keith not been in exalted circles just saw the word in a paper and thought someone on here would have an explanation
Hello Keith, not sure what sort of visit your granddaughter is going on but in general the weather should be getting a spring like feel, so lightweight clothing whch can be layered rather than thick heavy woollies.
ReplyDeleteStrong footwear for walking up/around volcanic rock, swimming gear for Blue Lagoon and other swimming pools and hotpots. and light ballet type shoes for indoor use, head protection if they go to the big lake,plenty of flies there though guide books tell you there are none in Iceland. Reykavik. were most people is like most cities with very fast moving traffic.Aland of ice and fire rain is heavy when it comes and plenty of reading as not much to do outside of city. go onto Ask Jeeves re Iceland the country and it will answer most questions.
keith not been in exalted circles just saw the word in a paper and thought someone on here would have an explanation
Joy,
ReplyDeleteThanks for the tips, particularly re head protection, not mentioned by anyone else.
I'm sure that Ron (Malta), Anne (Martindale), Eric (Stables), Don Boyall, to name but a few, know all about hendiadys. They just need a bit of encouragement. Perhaps a competition along the lines of our limerick and villanelle exercise of yesteryear. The best hendiadys author gets a commendation and pint on the house at the next reunion. By the way, when is that to be. And will you be there?
I leave in a matter of hours for foreign parts, and will be incommunicado for a few days. Not much change there then, I hear you say.
K
There's a fly in my kitchen my door and windows are always open what do I expect it came in out of the rain and decided to stay awhile I've shown it the way out several times unlike the bumble bee it doesn't seem to cotton on it's been my companion for 4 days now follows me from room to room Lord knows i've given it some stick it's that nanosecond too quick came down this morning to find it settled comfortably on the back of a chair at the kitchen table
ReplyDeletenow it's on my laptop
Got It. A little bit of black matter just collided with my swatter
Well Shirley just picked up your comment about your house guest you entertained your guest for a few days even playing chase games with it and fed and watered then because you tired you went on a killing spree,must be the Amazonian streak coming out in you.
ReplyDeleteI have been roaming round as usual as well as following the Tour de France and on the last day in Paris after the presentations was surprised and delighted to hear our ex Thornensian Lesley singing our national anthem in celebration of our successes.
Regards Joy
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK BEFORE WE GO IF ANY ONE REMEMBERS THE OLD DONCASTER MUSEUM I AM THINKING OF A PARTICULAR EXHIBIT, A FULLSIZED SAMURAI WARRIOR IN A GLASS CAGE WHICH WAS EXTREMELY FRIGHTENING TO ME AS A SMALL PERSON YET ALWAYS HAD TO VIEW IT. WHY WAS IT THERE DO WE KNOW THE CONNECTION WITH DONCASTER NEVER READ ANY INSCRIPTION .
ReplyDeleteSIGNING OFF ROYAL LEMON PIE
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ReplyDeleteJoy,
Yes, I remember the museum, on Waterdale I think, not far from the swimming baths, the girls high school and a little cinema called the Arcadia, which turned into a civic arts centre in post-war years. But the only exhibits I can remember are what seemed to be acres of old coins that all looked the same to me, and a bee hive that had a glass wall where you could watch these eusocial hymenoptera eusocialising. There was a glass tunnel from the hive to the window of the museum and a steady stream of bees coming and going, but I never succeeded in identifying the queen.
To have a museum was a source of civic pride, a relic of Victorian Values. I suspect that very few of them survived the successive cuts as the country got relatively poorer. Any spare cash now goes into heating allowances for pampered parasitic octogenarians like us.
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There is still a wonderful Museum and Art Gallery in Chequer Rd, in the street just behind the Arts Centre. The museum is much bigger and there are large rooms for displaying art. I was very disappointed when the bees weren't moved along with all the exhibits, as I was also fascinated by them. A not very nice thing happened when I was about fourteen/fifteen and we went from TGS to visit the museum. I'll not go into details, but it was very embarrassing, particularly as the boys were also there.
ReplyDeleteI have been to live art lessons there, which I enjoyed, and my art club were privileged to have an exhibition of our paintings in one of the galleries the year before last.
I would imagine the Samuri warrior is still there Joy, I'll look next time I go. There are lots of birds and also the history of the St Leger.
http://www.doncaster.gov.uk/leisure_and_culture/museums_and_galleries/doncaster_museum_and_art_gallery/doncaster_museum_and_art_gallery.asp
Thank you both for the information the bees I remember well,.I am still routing around in ancient places getting admonished for chipping in when I know the information is a little unrealistic the most recent one at Speke Hall when a guide claimed it to be the most splendid of Elizabethan houses in England when clearly the most of it was a Victorian make over after the peasants and their animals used it for many years also making a claim about Whistlers painting of his mother which appears in many homes (I wonder if it was his way of saying thank you for hospitality with a picture of Mum)
ReplyDeleteMy friend retired as custoddian/archeologist of Irish castles, she got a pension and very painful knees from grubbibg aroud in strange places.
I only went to the St Leger once with my dad as a little girl and I think there was a huge ferris wheel and also a very bark man in strange clothes dancing about and shouting and it rained I have never been to a race meeting sunce although it all happens here on Grand Nationa; Day I knew Red Rum very well lovely little horse. Hey thanks for the memories
J
I remember Prince Monolulu who was in the Market place in the morning of the St Leger, shouting tips. He was a larger than life character and he fascinated me. He then moved to the race course for the afternoon's racing.
ReplyDeleteI've only been to the St Leger once, in the year I was married in 1953. It took place on Wednesday then, and the school holidays finished after Leger week. I went with my dad as well. My husband went every year during his childhood and teenage years, but we didn't go together.....ever.